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Tonantzin333's avatar

Oh do fuck off. Who cares about ANY of the points brought up here. Good for them for not donating money to fascists. Good for them for being independent journalists and taking in others who are leaving mainstream media controlled by the. 4th Reich. Why don’t you post this crap on X where you belong.

Tonantzin333's avatar

Your time would be better spent attacking outlets that are undermining our democracy and enabling fascism. MTN is relentlessly anti-Trump. If you don’t like their style watch someone else. We don’t need anyone attacking those on our side. When you do that , you’re really supporting the fascists by default. MTN calls Bibi a war criminal all the time. If they don’t cover the Gaza situation to your liking, watch Zeteo like everybody else. We are not so entitled as to demand that all journalists are all things to all people. Im black and my people are being fucked over like nobody’s business. If i was being an asshole, i could complain that MTN wasn’t focussed enough on issues affecting blacks. But since im not entitled, i watch Joy and Don and others if i want a more afro-centric focus. What MTN has accomplished is not easy.. What is easy is to sit on your couch and criticize real work accomplished by others. We are at fucking war and we don’t have time for masturbatory shit like this.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

If your only goal is being anti-trump then you are lost when he’s gone and racism and genocide is still happening.

Rock Wilcox's avatar

Nicky, Nicky, Nicky, it is true that racism and genocide have been around long before trump stole his way into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and racism and genocide will still be around when he is dead and gone. But one thing that stands out is that trump has given racists his full blessing, and sometimes help, to be more violent and more disgusting than ever.

Not only is it just trump, it is also a substantial number of conservatives and Republicans who feel the same way he does. And trump and his MAGA Mafia lackeys are busy trying to silence all who criticize him and his foul policies. Several journalists from CBS and other mainstream news outlets are being booted out because they refuse to hide the facts, because they will not make nice with trump. Scott Pelley was booted from CBS, and 60 Minutes in particular, because he would not polish or dress up his reporting by making trump look good; he simply reported the facts and stood by them.

If you want pro-trump reporting, go watch fox 'news', Newsmax, or OAN.

I am out of here.....and so are you.

Richard's avatar

Not only about trump…it’s about fascism dude…. Pretty simple

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

It seems pretty simple that I watch more content than you and am making a legitimate critique.

People who listen to real progressive media see Meidas as a corporate grift.

Tonantzin333's avatar

We know that dude

Cheryl Braathen's avatar

If you think that is, their only goal is being an anti-Trump you’re not much of an American.

Sherry McGuinn's avatar

Well-played and I agree.

Sherry McGuinn's avatar

It’s called “professional jealousy.”

Raini's avatar

😂😂😂😂😂

Robert Scalzi's avatar

Ya sure, Ben is a gullible douche, he platforms every fucking con artist that says they left rumpworld, ex 1 Michael Fucking Cohen. Fuck Ben

AAA's avatar

Hmmm, do they really say, out loud, they "DO NOT" support "him"??? Last time I checked, they had ONE "Black" person reporting! Oh wait, I'm not sure that was even them!!! Do they host the two "Black" Doctors??? I'm not sure!! I don't care WHAT color you are, you don't sound "NICE"!! I liked MTN when they were smaller and seemed to actually care!!! I AM HAPPY THEY USE STATUS COUP!!!

J Mac's avatar

You too stupid to grasp that is what the article did. I feel so sorry for our country with imbeciles like you.

Gotaklew's avatar

All of it and I agree with @Tonantzin333

Gotaklew's avatar

Yeah, I did. Your a bunch of conspiracy theorists. Granted. I don't watch a lot of cable news, but you all are the "Clickbait Kings"!

Where's info on Ukraine? You don't have it

Where's info on Russia?

You don't have it

Where's information on Ebola?

You don't have

Screworms all of you.

So STFU!

AAA's avatar

Wow, that's funny!! I like to come back and find posts that interest me!! Too bad, every meidas touch says "BREAKING NEWS"!! WAS THAT TODAY< YESTERDAY OR LAST YEAR???? WHO KNOWS!!!! This guy has posted once, that I can tell, how much is he required to put in one post??? Meidas was around long enough for us to know what is what, and I have felt for a while, they are ALL ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY THEY CAN MAKE!!! Hmmm, did Meidas report on all those things??? I have no idea WHAT they are reporting on, ALL OF THEIR TITLES ARE "BREAKING NEWS" WHAT DOES THAT MEAN???!! IT doesn't HURT to be polite!!!

AbbyRoad's avatar

Many of the commenters are like maga lemmings who can’t consider an alternative perspective from their own unhinged beliefs.

It is ironic, and pathetic, that the majority of comments to your article are as ignorant and biased as the most ignorant maga red hat. Many resort to insults and name-calling with a degree of viciousness worthy of the most diehard, deranged magat.

They have become what they despise. And just like magats, they are oblivious to their glaring, unhinged ignorance. They are being spoon-fed the propaganda and greedily suck it down.

Carry on, Dude on the Couch. I appreciate your perspective. I can feed myself. And think for myself.

Erin_EG's avatar

Where do you get your “news” info from?

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

Black Media.

Survivorcentric media.

Those quotes are looking awful skeptical which means that your media diet is different channels of the same stuff.

Tonantzin333's avatar

WTF are you talking about now ? “black media “ ? “ survivocentric media?” You really want to get into this area ? Have you ever heard the saying “stay down”? You really wanna go there wonder bread without the crust? Make my day.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

You have a toxic reason to be here.

I am not here for social media throw downs.

In fact, that’s one of my critiques of Meisales and Popok content.

All promos isn’t a fight.

Erin_EG's avatar

Tonantzin - I think he is here to get people pissed off. When I asked where he gets his “news” from he said CNN, BBC & Reuters. Didn’t list the newspapers.

John pauli's avatar

Kiss my ass. I read it and you are all in on Trump.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

I’m certain that you read the article and walked away retaining the parts where I was in on Trump.

John pauli's avatar

I see you were on a rant for a few hours. Take a break and read a fucking newspaper.

AbbyRoad's avatar

Newspapers are MSM owned by fascist billionaires and written at a fourth to sixth grade reading and comprehension level. Maybe 5% of what is in them is factual.

John pauli's avatar

Really. All of them in every city in every state? There is no written word you trust. Do you only trust videos on YouTube?

Sanity Sherpa's avatar

Get outta here

Cheryl Braathen's avatar

I did and I’d say the same thing oh, fuck off, How many times have you said something about Fox entertainment Tucker Carlson, .

Patricia Martin's avatar

I totally agree with you. Let these dopes take apart foreign owned, operated, and adversarial Fox (faux) news. Please!!!

Cathleen  Faraj's avatar

Could not have said it better! I say, so what, you asses have Fox!

Amy Jackson's avatar

MTN promised aileen cannon would not be the judge for the maralago case. They promised Jack Smith would be triumphant in putting trump in prison. They convinced everyone to “believe in the system” as republicans ignored or destroyed that system. Because of MTN, we were complacent while a rapist convicted felon was reinstalled in the white house to continue destroying the US. They told is we didn’t need to fight. They did not even report on credible information that the 2024 election was in fact VERY RIGGED, with musk using putin’s tactics. That is NOT “journalism”. That is not “fighting for democracy”. That is “lie down and take it because there is nothing you can do about it”.

There is, however, no evidence that they have received donations from the ellison family that owns paramount.

I do not believe MTN is “bad”, just ineffective and too entrenched in the “norms” that no longer exist.

You cannot trust the courts when the fascists have been filling them with sycophants for decades.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

Every day there is a headline where Trump is “Devastated!” or something completely unnecessary.

Tonantzin333's avatar

To steal from Droobie, how bad is that on a scale of 1 to J6? Your commentary is unnecessary. No one FN cares. We are at the beginning of an ethnic cleanse to usher in Gilead and this is the shit you focus on? Get over yourself, get off your couch, pretend you’re a Minnesotan and actually DO something to protect democracy.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

all you had to do was not read it.

Tonantzin333's avatar

I can’t think of a single left leaning media outlet that did not believe that at least one of those lawsuits were gonna bring Trump down. We can’t blame MTN for believing what pretty much every other journalist believed at the time. Hindsight is 2020 and now we need to put on our big girl panties and do what we need to do. The difference between whites and blacks with issues like this is that blacks don’t have as high expectations and as much entitlement as Whites. No single media outlet is ever gonna cover every fucking thing that I want them to cover but at least if they’re on the right side of things, I gotta give them credit for that. If you wanna promote the issues like the 2024 election being stolen, which we know it all is then promote the people who are trying to bring that information forward. Support Gregg Palast. Spread awareness in your own network of people. But don’t dump on other others for not doing everything. Especially if you’re not doing anything yourself.

Jen's avatar

Yes! Why did they fire Jessica Denson? She was ahead of the game on the 2024 election shenanigans... But now there is credible evidence from this will hold and election truth alliance, and I'm still waiting for MTN to interview someone from those teams.

Upstart Raven's avatar

He didn’t say Medias got Ellison donations - he said they run ads for Oracle. Larry Ellison owns 40% of Oracle. That’s way too close for me after seeing him tear down journalists & news outlets.

robyn cuming's avatar

Read the article. I’ve noticed a few comments regarding Gaza. I have not been able to consolidate.

Raini's avatar

I've had an uneasy feeling about meidas for awhile now. I can't quite put my finger on why. Just my gut

John pauli's avatar

Ok get this fun fact. There are lots of places to get information from independent media. Has Meidas become click bait. Maybe. But all of right wing media is. I don’t listen to them any more but they do provide a window into this administration. If that is your main source of facts we’ll the once again your not very resourceful in finding independent media that is reliable and trustworthy, like the Guardian. It can be done.

Mary Kate Welsh's avatar

Thank you🎼!!!!

Barb Jones's avatar

Thank you.

J Mac's avatar

You missed every point. Go back to sleep, Epstein lover.

Dean Solecki's avatar

I really like Katie Phang, but I don't really care for the way most of the rest of Meidas does their videos; it's always in the most hyperbolic language possible.

When everything is the biggest thing ever, nothing is the biggest thing ever.

Patti D's avatar

Totally agree!

majorfathead's avatar

This! This right here!

Genny de Suave's avatar

I have been saying for a year now that Meidas Touch is actively avoiding anti-Israel commentary. This feels vindicating. I'm glad other people are noticing. Ben has always seemed more like a fake to me, like a carnival barker.

Brittiney V's avatar

Why don’t you go on YouTube and start running anti-Israel content and see how fast you get shut down ill wait

Srini Parthasarathy's avatar

Actually Jennifer Welch of IHIP is extreme anti-Israel. She calls Netanyahu, the state of Israel and IDF all kinds of nasty things. I am still able to see her YouTube clips.

Stacy Marigold's avatar

They were some of the first critical news I followed when I was breaking away from regular news networks and they provide the bridge away from the distractions on Fox / CNN but ultimately they are really click baiting. I got

tired of a promise for real news that wasn’t delivered and stopped following them.

Joanne Steacie's avatar

Same here. I subscribed at first looking for truth, etc. But they got too slick or something; too in love with themselves and always pushing for more; always more concerned with their own increase. Got tired and suspicious and unsubscribed. They got to be too much like what I stopped listening to mainstream for, to me.

Camille Kelly's avatar

You mean less about fixing democracy and saving the country and more about numbers and popularity? That's the vibe I get. Greed and wealth is what got us into this mess in the first place.

Joanne Steacie's avatar

Yes, Camille. Agree.

Jen's avatar

I love IHIP news these days. Those ladies speak with empathy for everyone, and they are freaking hilarious! I started with MTN in 2020... And I have been a paid subscriber to Meidas+for several years now, but I am slowly choosing not to listen to their podcasts. I'm very anxious about not having Ron Filipkowski's newsletter everyday though, which is why I have not canceled my subscription.

Annmarie's avatar

same

BGPicker's avatar

Same

Lynmadd's avatar

Ok leave the sensationalism aside, it’s not claimed that this was started as unbiased journalism to start with. Most of us with a functioning brain never thought that. What it WAS was a way to fight back against the mainstream corporate media corrupted by Trumpf and his sycophants. There is legitimate news where it didn’t and doesn’t seem to exist elsewhere in the journalistic realm tainted by right wingers. I give all the credit to any organization willing to fight back against this assault on democracy. As for the professional journalists who left corporate media to maintain their integrity, good for them. The more they contribute to Meidas network the more fact based news is disseminated to combat the take over of free speech by the far right. Anyone who cares at all about democracy should quit bellyaching and criticizing and do all they can to support and push back against the enormous disinformation machine of this regime. If you think you can do better then quit criticizing and put out your product ( or sit back in your couch and watch regime media)

Lisa Unger's avatar

I agree. MeidasTouch never claimed to be journalists. Ben is a lawyer, Brett is in communication and Jordy is a marketer. Yes, Ben sounds a little sensational right now but you have to be that way to feed the algorithm. He’s building a network of lawyers and journalists and the news they show is nothing you will find on mainstream media. Who else shows what is happening in Albania or Ukraine?

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

Elon Musk became a billionaire because people who didn’t know shit about him talked about how smart and awesome he was.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

I am going to ask you a question, rather than respond.

Do you watch Bulwark, MS NOW and Crooked content as your primary media diet, including Meidas?

Lynmadd's avatar

I watch and read a variety of news including Reuters BBC and AP. So what are your sources???

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

Survivorcentric and Black.

Erin_EG's avatar

BBC, Ground News, Don Lemon, Black Man Spy, Wajaheet Ali, Wajeet Lion, Jacob Karsbro, Denver Riggleman, Midas touch, CNN, Scott MacFarlane, Aaron Parnas, Dean Blundelll, Ellie Leonard & a few more. I mostly use Ground News & then a mix of the others depending on the topic. Any other suggestions? Would I fall into that “lemming category?” When are you starting your media company?

J Mac's avatar

AP took the knee to Trump sadly.

Illusivillusion's avatar

Im going to ask you for any bit of actual evidence, not your subjective opinion

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

I wrote a piece, I’ve written multiple pieces, I’ve laid out my case.

Illusivillusion's avatar

My case is you should be aware of all information from all sides.

Ground news has been shown to be absolutely valid and idk i haven't seen anything more so yet. Im open to new outlets but I won't stop looking at all outlets

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

Blackstar Network with Roland Martin

The Karen Hunter Show.

Laurie Daniel Favors.

Greg Carr on In Class With Carr on Knarrative.

I watch so much Black and survivorcentric news, Meidas, Crooked and the Bulwark are barely comedy shows that talk about polling that doesn’t even exists because polls are for toothpaste flavors and gum, not political will.

Illusivillusion's avatar

I do agree about giving attention to melenated and survivorcentric news though.

Illusivillusion's avatar

I see... you dont like their flavor. But nothing for lack of credibility and like i said, Ground News...they're source, is pretty solid for those that do their own news research and don't solely weight on 3rd party delivery.

🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

this is a great article. i hate these fake 'independent' news services. they are just corpo shitposters pretending to be something they aren't to worm their way into a new, growing market because it's 'cool' to be an independent journalist now due to people finally realizing the 24 hour news cycle is really a 24 hour Mossad CIA psyop Hegelian Dialectic control cycle

Marney's avatar

I never could stand to listen to that Ben Miseales( know I spelled last name wrong) Don’t they platform Aaron Parnas? I read that he makes 600,000 A MONTH between Substack, YouTube etc. and while I like him the very few times I listened to him. He was not telling me ANY news I couldn’t get from many other independent journalists. I refuse to pay these big platformed folks! I don’t have much extra and when I do the smaller accounts who seem very genuine are the ones I will & do support. These folks with hundreds of thousands and millions of folks are not getting a dime from me.

Brittiney V's avatar

These are news and political commentators. They don’t bring breaking news. That is not their platform.

John M. Kelly's avatar

Don't know why Substack put this on my feed, but I'm not buying it. Giving less polemic and more hit piece. Is your beef personal? Then what is your personal beef—because you haven't said shit about your motivation. If it's not personal, who's paying you?

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

I find it extremely odd that you think someone paid me to call out hypocrites.

Not doing so is how we get the Epstein class.

John M. Kelly's avatar

Oh, so now Meiselas is "Epstein class"? That's a stretch. You didn't answer my question. If you have a personal problem with MT, fine—disclose it. If you're being paid for a hit piece, you're playing the Trumpish "every accusation is a confession" game. Which is it.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

I write what I find out. Beef your own burgers.

John M. Kelly's avatar

No worries. At least it seems that you and I are looking for our ways forward along similar paths.

Illusivillusion's avatar

It would be more odd if litteraly anybody here agreed with you lol

Noel Keith's avatar

Don’t understand why you needed to bring up JeffEp here, bruv.

JeffEp existed because of our two tiered justice system and the amorality of the rich. Things like JeffEp have occurred in other civilizations whenever there’s too much economic disparity and the rich have nothing to do but develop proclivities.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

Yeah, that's disrespectful to the facts that are known and still to be connected.

Just projection

Brittiney V's avatar

I don’t see any hypocrites. I see you being a crybaby. It is obviously personal.

Mic's avatar

Did you read the article? It seems not.

Brittiney V's avatar

Yes, and it was a wine baby cry fest.

Mic's avatar

You lack discernment. You cannot see the most obvious con game. It’s embarrassing to see someone defend their abuser.

J Mac's avatar

Give it a rest. It’s obvious you can’t see what’s right in front of you. I’m sure you think Chuck Schumer s fighting for Dems. Wake up.

John M. Kelly's avatar

No worries. I'm "sure" you're a self-absorbed idiot. Good luck with that.

(I'm actually not "sure" but it sure looks like you play one online.)

Mic's avatar

John, like it or not, meidas is a Zionist operative. Just because they duped you doesn’t mean it’s not true.

J Mac's avatar

You resort to insults because you know what your logic is non existent. Keep bending over for AIPAC candidates.

John M. Kelly's avatar

hmmmm… wherever did I ever indicate I support candidates who’ve been bought by AIPAC—an entity I have called to have investigated and dismantled, publicly on this platform and others.

if not troll, why troll-shaped?

Now, fuck right off.

J Mac's avatar

It figures you’re pictured with a chicken, pathetic.

J Mac's avatar

First, let me post the Wired article with a list of people on Thiel’s inner circle. Cory Booker, Wes Moore, Perry Bahata, Ezra Klein (NYT journalist).. the truth hurts. Grow up, knuckle dragger.

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

It’s weird that you went to that. Did you read any of it?

J Mac's avatar

Run along you pest. It’s not my job to teach you anything. It’s shocking that you can thrash such a simple concept.

J Mac's avatar

Yeah ok buddy, good comeback.

Dellinda Rabinowitz's avatar

Let the other party implode. Please don’t do this to our party.

Judy's avatar

Once again, everyone piling on with “facts” because a content creator wrote a hit piece. Can we please not be so gullible? Starting to feel very MAGA up in here. I thought we were a bit more ….I don’t know…….smart??

Illusivillusion's avatar

You sound very non confrontational

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

I was hoping to sound very spectral in the sense that what I learn, digest and comprehend isn’t dedicated to one source as it is to my understanding of consensus under my own judgement.

Judy's avatar

That's a valid point to make and I regret using such a snarky approach. I shouldn't have done that.

Mic's avatar

Afraid your aim is off.

Judy's avatar

Well then I'm sure that's a fact too.

Mic's avatar
Jun 15Edited

You can continue to ignore what is obvious, and even ignore it when it is clearly explained to you but you can’t play the fact game when you are not willing to do the simple work of checking.

Lou's avatar

Interesting to read about the background. I've stopped being an unpaid subscriber last year when I couldn't handle the constant outrage clickbait headlines that then had no content substance. I came here for the independent work and it's becoming more like a cliquey version of MSM.

Phyllis Mass's avatar

Lots of antisemitism on parade here

Gotaklew's avatar

No. But lots of intolerance to Netanyahu. Keep up!

Phyllis Carlin, Miami's avatar

You read my mind!!!

Phyllis Mass's avatar

I call it as I see it two Phyllis’ have to be celebrated. No longer anyone with that name.

Inter-Dimensional Dissentery's avatar

GOOD!!!!

Eileen NC's avatar

I as others have said, have stopped paying any attention to them. It’s all hype and drama. Every post a bombshell. Done with them.

Jazz's avatar

Midas is just another Jew owned media company looking to tell lies to the American people about Israel.

Sherry McGuinn's avatar

Wow. Learn how to spell so your ignorance isn’t quite so…ignorant.

Jazz's avatar

I'm sorry my disability impaired your ability to read. But I'd rather be ignorant than a raping genocidal psychopathic cunt of a Jew. Who's going to burn in a pot of her own shit for eternity. May God grind your bones to dust

Jazz's avatar

I'm sorry my disability impaired your ability to read. But I'd rather be ignorant than a raping genocidal psychopathic cunt of a Jew. Who's going to burn in a pot of her own shit for eternity. May God grind your bones to dust

John M. Kelly's avatar

How about you just fuck all the way off, you smooth-brained shrivel-heart BIGOT.

John M. Kelly's avatar

mine, or theirs ;)

Brittiney V's avatar

That is disgusting, anti-somatic, and just pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Jazz's avatar

You know what's anti-semitic?genocide against REAL semites. and you can't be anti-semitic towards somebody who isn't a fucking semite. Thank you for being your goy toy self

https://substack.com/@handala1948/note/c-227926053?r=5bzcb1

Brittiney V's avatar

What you called people is anti-emetic. Genocide if Palestinians is murder by a war criminal. It isn’t anti-genetic. What you said was so disgusting. Why do you think it’s ok to label all those of Jewish heritage that way? It is just gross. It’s what Trump does.

Sherry McGuinn's avatar

@libertybeats This is a sick individual so full of hate, she belongs in a padded cell.

Jazz's avatar

Then scroll by and block. I'm not fighting with you. I don't care what you think. I have no respect for you You mean nothing to me. Scroll by and block

Brittiney V's avatar

Ana, it’s pretty sad and pathetic when that’s how you think and react to other Individuals in your space. Especially when everyone is fighting the same fight. You can be a bigot and antisemite, but remember when you need help and no one lends a hand you’ll know why.

Sherry McGuinn's avatar

This is a sick individual so full of hate, she belongs in a padded cell.

Mic's avatar

Brittney, law down. You are confused and a bit delusional.

Jazz's avatar

No problem I get it nobody's allowed to disagree with you I get it now

Curious's avatar

Im so disappointed. I have watched them from the beginning and have contributed. I guess I'm just a small fish smuck. I unsubscrribe. Everyone gets too big for their pants. Money. Money, money and Jews????

Curious's avatar

I don't mean jews I mean zionists?

Nick G, A Dude On The Couch's avatar

Yes! They weigh heavily with Zionist Dems.

LJ's avatar

Takes awhile to distinguish who is worth supporting on Substack. MTN seemed like clickbait and didn’t learn anything.

danofdot's avatar

"Clip reaction show" - Pretty much sums it up.

Thank you for this in-depth reporting. I'm tired of, and reducing my - schadenfreude masking as some type of authentic news - dwell time. Is it, perhaps apropos of capitalism, that once influencers, be they network or independents, achieve some measure of financial success, that there may be a tendency to become more concerned with losing money rather than losing followers/subscribers?

BTW - I haven't been able to find any other reports of MTN accepting Ellison money. So, if you have a reliable source you could share that would be helpful., as it would pretty much end my MTN related subscriptions.